tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post2001702262168917091..comments2016-04-26T12:14:37.743-07:00Comments on The Daily Lipid: My Discussion With Vegan Physician Dr. Michael Greger on Pete Dominick's Show, Stand Up!Chris Masterjohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09922003080748568167noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-43535573687638130952014-02-24T05:51:07.498-08:002014-02-24T05:51:07.498-08:00Here it is without the signup: https://soundcloud...Here it is without the signup:<br /><br />https://soundcloud.com/siriusxm-news-issues/standup-w-petedominick-foodMicahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01699912652052865312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-22268907791271758782014-02-19T09:32:10.709-08:002014-02-19T09:32:10.709-08:00Impressed with the post here. Impressed with the post here. Obgen el caminohttp://doctorazad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-74107956768807490362014-02-18T16:40:03.458-08:002014-02-18T16:40:03.458-08:00Thank you Rhys for advising where to listen outsid...Thank you Rhys for advising where to listen outside USA/CA.Danhttp://tacfitwarriorreview.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-52793075556091147942014-02-07T16:29:57.563-08:002014-02-07T16:29:57.563-08:00Fantastic job Dr Masterjohn. You mention that you...Fantastic job Dr Masterjohn. You mention that you learned a few things since the Intelligence Squared debate. I&#39;d agree, and it seems you&#39;re a quick learner! You handled that like a pro. Very clear, well formed arguments. You definitely came across as the better researched debater, and I learned some great stuff by listening. Thank you!<br /><br />I remember finding Dr Greger&#39;s site a while ago and at first I thought it was interesting and I learned a few things, but I quickly disregarded it when I heard him blatantly misrepresenting (or misunderstanding) some research on his little Youtube videos. So I got a little pleasure from listening to you run knowledge circles around him. Thanks for that too :)Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-85580238279853710222014-02-05T14:47:22.325-08:002014-02-05T14:47:22.325-08:00People might want to check out the Hola plugin for...People might want to check out the Hola plugin for Chrome which allows you to use a US VPN. Melissa Mcewenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06262730156552874803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-7802923962006574812014-02-05T08:01:04.335-08:002014-02-05T08:01:04.335-08:00This would be another hoop to jump through, but if...This would be another hoop to jump through, but if someone is outside of the US and Canada and want to listen, they could use &quot;Hola&quot; -- https://hola.orgRhysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-72899901028936139302014-02-04T06:08:06.857-08:002014-02-04T06:08:06.857-08:00I so enjoyed listening to this exchange. I respect...I so enjoyed listening to this exchange. I respect your rebuttal of his presentation of his so called &quot;irrefutable diet studies&quot;. You are measured in your response, showed a knowledge base for the studies in question, and respectfully pointed out the shortcomings in study design - he could not refute your observations, and had to appeal to emotion &quot;getting rid of the biggest killer.....&quot; type of verbiage.<br />Kudos to you!!!Newbiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10011973668875349690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-60308741307989385682014-02-03T08:25:55.742-08:002014-02-03T08:25:55.742-08:00I don&#39;t quite understand the point in debating...I don&#39;t quite understand the point in debating with vegans/vegetarians. It seems like a waste of time, money and other resources, like the amount of psychic energy arguing consumes. It is just banging your head against a wall of obstinance, since these people have the same basic mentality as religious fundamentalists. No matter how many points you raise, ultimately they are not going to listen. or digest if they do listen, because they see themselves as already having a lock on the truth. So, while prominent vegetarians may discuss calcium and B12 in a measured manner, their &quot;flock&quot; just accepts what is said as proof that their own attitudes were accurate all along, paying absolutely no attention to the points raised by the &quot;opposition.&quot;<br /><br />Trying to speak to people outside this debate about vegetarianism is usually futile, also, because they sympathize with the vegetarians, seeing vegetarians as being as morally strong as they should be but can&#39;t be due to being &quot;weak.&quot; &quot;I wish I could make a commitment to being vegetarian, ideally vegan, but I just don&#39;t have what it takes.&quot; I&#39;ve heard that so many times that I don&#39;t bother trying to discuss it with them.<br /><br />Most people don&#39;t understand evolution, so they don&#39;t understand any arguments in favor of how it might indicate how we should structure our diet, exercise or health. Their eyes glaze over and they start quoting the people who think that our digestive tract somehow is the same as that of herbivores. &quot;Look, our molars are the same shape as those of cows.&quot; Then they head for the doctor or herbalist to &quot;fix&quot; them if they get sick. Or if they are really sick, they go raw vegan and lo and behold, they get better! They fail to notice that they have stopped eating grains, beans, vegetable oils, potatoes and other tubers, and any other vegetables that can&#39;t be eaten raw, but they do notice that they aren&#39;t eating meat and of course, that is the sole reason they feel better.<br /><br />Of course, they now eat like other herbivores, that is, constantly, in a desperate attempt to get adequate nutrition. A friend has a bowl of salad with her at all times, which she is able to renew repeatedly, since she works in the kitchen of a restaurant. I suggested she stay on her raw vegan diet except for some raw milk, raw eggs and some raw beef carpaccio, and see what happens, you know, experiment for a month, but no way, Jose, it was the meat that made me sick in the first place. I just leave her alone now, except for a mild comment when she turns orange from too much carrot juice or if I see her rubbing her sore jaw where her teeth are decaying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-64386330729534152302014-02-03T06:43:36.584-08:002014-02-03T06:43:36.584-08:00Chris, regarding lead in bones and consequent lead...Chris, regarding lead in bones and consequent lead in bone broth: if bones used are not pastured (chicken in particular), but &quot;better quality&quot; such as Whole Foods level 2, would lead still be a concern? The study you mentioned finding zero lead in the bone broth used the ideal pastured animal which many do not have access to nor are they able to afford. Any insights/thoughts? Also, did the study finding lead in bone broth use CAFO animals, and was it chicken or beef bones? Thanks so much!Pattyhttps://www.facebook.com/BiomeOnboardAwarenessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-47749211883797969492014-02-03T06:30:12.522-08:002014-02-03T06:30:12.522-08:00Hi Matt, I apologize for not realizing the intern...Hi Matt,<br /><br />I apologize for not realizing the internet radio is restricted to the US and Canada. I knew this was the case for satellite but I assumed internet radio is available globally.<br /><br />ChrisChris Masterjohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09922003080748568167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-82350242483427805082014-02-03T06:28:38.258-08:002014-02-03T06:28:38.258-08:00Anonymous, Please forgive me for overlooking the ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Please forgive me for overlooking the fact that the internet radio is not available outside the US and Canada. I knew this was the case for the satellite radio, but I assumed the internet radio was available globally.<br /><br />I understand that the setup is not user-friendly and is frustrating, but it is meant for subscribers and I posted the link here because I knew some of my readers would be willing to jump through the hoops. Unfortunately I cannot offer alternatives to those who are not at the moment.<br /><br />All that said, there is no &quot;contract&quot; with the company. You just enter minimal information amounting to your email address and zip code, and from a purely technical standpoint, the only thing that need be accurate information is the email address.<br /><br />ChrisChris Masterjohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09922003080748568167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-40737723453789792322014-02-03T04:32:42.355-08:002014-02-03T04:32:42.355-08:00Maybe Dr. Greger will post something on his site. ...Maybe Dr. Greger will post something on his site. That is where I will be.erinbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08121936499132954644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-81528757848037230042014-02-02T23:46:29.728-08:002014-02-02T23:46:29.728-08:00Not even mentioning people living outside the US (...Not even mentioning people living outside the US (Central Europe in my case)...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-65587740143114601552014-02-02T22:21:37.917-08:002014-02-02T22:21:37.917-08:00Good question! After some thought, I came up with:...Good question! After some thought, I came up with: several types of kale, some of them very different (like black and red kale); also watercress including a dark watercress, romaine lettuce, cabbage, bok choy and broccolini, broccoli and endive are a few that come to mind, but there are a number of asian greens, like baby bok choi, gai lan, etc that I don&#39;t know the names of in English off-hand. If you are more into wild and more exotic items: garlic mustard, basil, parsley, cilantro, sage, thyme (not that you&#39;d eat a large quantity from of the herb category), drumstick and fennugreek (the latter common in Indian cooking, also called methi). I rather suspect that some kale and some almonds would pack an excellent serving of calcium. I found a recipe for tomato, kale and almond soup which is easy to make and extraordinarily good (its in the book Vegan on $4 a day).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-2666929050929333862014-02-02T22:13:24.597-08:002014-02-02T22:13:24.597-08:00I agree. Completely absurd to get into a contract ...I agree. Completely absurd to get into a contract (first 30 days free) with the satellite company. Fine for those people who planned to subscribe anyways, but for the rest of us, the company is just data-mining. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-89562041353875985612014-02-02T21:19:13.269-08:002014-02-02T21:19:13.269-08:00I guess I can&#39;t get access to SiriusXm if I am...I guess I can&#39;t get access to SiriusXm if I am in Africa.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-77531121824089165592014-02-02T18:52:47.273-08:002014-02-02T18:52:47.273-08:00No Enjoyment....too many hoops......nothing.....di...No Enjoyment....too many hoops......nothing.....disappointing...looking forward to listening to this at some point in the future?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-34193687314205522422014-02-02T16:20:46.849-08:002014-02-02T16:20:46.849-08:00yes you&#39;re right, thanks.yes you&#39;re right, thanks. Benjaminhttp://www.naturacoach.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-31010458948790121862014-02-02T14:48:35.012-08:002014-02-02T14:48:35.012-08:00As Chris made a valiant effort at pointing out, bo...As Chris made a valiant effort at pointing out, both Ornish and E____ have programs that contain so many factors that teasing out which is (or are) responsible for the improvements seen is nearly impossible. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-64925907308316549412014-02-02T14:22:53.622-08:002014-02-02T14:22:53.622-08:00When Greger recommended leafy greens for calcium a...When Greger recommended leafy greens for calcium and then quietly removed spinach, Swiss chard, and beet greens, I guess he did that because of oxalates, but what high-calcium leafy greens are left when you remove those three? Kale and...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-67805021931616560662014-02-02T13:11:40.912-08:002014-02-02T13:11:40.912-08:00Hi, great podcast, thanks for your work. I&#39;m j...Hi, great podcast, thanks for your work. I&#39;m just frustrated as a lot of people I think that Dr Greger didn&#39;t answer really about the genetic differences in beta-carotene conversion and the inadequacy of a vegan diet for some people. Chris, about his point on &quot;the only diet that has proved to reverse heart disease is a plant based one&quot;, is it true ? Is there no observational study with positive results with other diets ? (I&#39;m thinking for example about the Lyon study with the Mediterranean diet) Benjaminhttp://www.naturacoach.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-1853312796162304422014-02-02T12:52:43.845-08:002014-02-02T12:52:43.845-08:00Dude...I would love to listen to this conversation...Dude...I would love to listen to this conversation....but the set-up is absurd. Please let us know when it or a related podcast is available via some customary channel.Richard Ryanhttp://biohackersnyc.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-31485466030796115722014-02-02T12:37:41.523-08:002014-02-02T12:37:41.523-08:00+1 Rhys. I too thoroughly enjoyed the discussion ...+1 Rhys. I too thoroughly enjoyed the discussion after finding my way through the hoops. Thank you.Vincent Bowyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17579237677914454367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5977689274110133568.post-29577048215521101872014-02-01T18:33:59.188-08:002014-02-01T18:33:59.188-08:00Fantastic job, and a great discussion. Definitely ...Fantastic job, and a great discussion. Definitely worth jumping through the hoops to listen to this. Rhysnoreply@blogger.com